Kenny Buchanan (and Angel too) helped me out (via phone) to get my 19" rear rim laced properly. I can't thank Buchanan's enough for their excellent custom service. I was frustrated I could NOT get this thing right . . . . I've laced and trued a few wheels in my day . . . but, this damn thing - I had attempted every possible combination. Kenny got me to view this project from a different perspective, and I laced the rim in a "different order" - an almost reverse-combination of steps. It worked ! An improved wheel with increased strength, over the factory spoke pattern. Now crossing 3 on the brake-side, with stainless spokes.